Here's a second example. Suppose I wanted a heavy-duty Warfare character. I might do it like this. Initial Bids for Attributes, Powers, and "Stuff": Psyche: (no bid) Strength: 25 pts. Endurance: 25 pts. Warfare: 200 pts. Pattern: 75 pts. Logrus: (no bid) Trump: (no bid) Shape Shift: (no bid) Power Words: 10 pts. Sorcery: (no bid) Conjuration: 35 pts. "Stuff": 25 pts. Subtotal: 395 points (250 + 120 + 25) Modifiers for Bids on Positions and Items: Captain: +75 Admiral: +75 Marshal: +75 Rebma: +8 Pattern-Sword: +92 Jewel of Judgement: +25 (25 + -0 = 25) Trump Deck: -0 Initial Bids for Positions and Items: Captain: "76" (1) Admiral: "76" (1) Marshal: "76" (1) Rebma: (no bid) Pattern-Sword: "93" (1) Jewel of Judgement: (no bid) Trump Deck: "1" (1) Subtotal: 5 points Total for Initial Bids: 400 points (This leaves me another 100 points for the Auction and for later on.) Oh... You may be asking, "Why bid on Adv. Conjuration?" The answer is, "Eight-point qualities", for his personal gear (arms and armor) as well as for his troops ("Combat Supremacy"). . . _Think_ about it. . . >:-)